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Post subject: Hollywood attorneys are trying to use the courts Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 4:49 pm |
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Post subject: Re: Hollywood attorneys are trying to use the courts Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 1:45 am |
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I watch and smile. I have faith.
The Hollywood dinosaur along with the music dinosaur is well on it's way to extinction.
I do think the take down of MU was supported by Hollywood but initiated by the music moguls.
A few scant weeks after announcing a way for artist's to release their works and receive 95% ? of the income, they were taken down?
I watch and I smile as the greedy bastards fade into oblivion. I hope.
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Post subject: Re: Hollywood attorneys are trying to use the courts Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 11:43 am |
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Hey all, As a show of support for this brief i have placed a posting on my Facebook wall. If so inclined feel free to c&p it to your fb wall as well. Spread the word. We are united in our voices.
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Laws exist to better a society as a whole. Once we subvert law for the betterment of anyone party we turn our backs on what our societies deepest beliefs are rooted in. I strongly recommend any members of the law abiding populace to read and possible sign in support of this brief. I am posting this on my personal Facebook wall in support. It is my hope that those who read this will follow me in spreading the word of its existence before our future privacies are removed from us. With out the root of law, society as a whole will fall to chaos. Please help protect our futures. Down with any laws reflectant of SOPA/PIPA!!! The DMCA (Digital Millenium Copyright Act) of 1998 is fare legal law establishing proper course of action for personal property holders and must not be forgotten, subvert or amended to better suit the needs of the one over the many.
IF YOU READ THIS AND AGREE PLEASE SHARE THIS WITH YOUR FB READERS. SPREAD THE WORD OR RISK BEING IMPRISONED IN YOUR OWN IGNORANCE!!!
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Post subject: Re: Hollywood attorneys are trying to use the courts Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 12:09 pm |
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I'm going to have to dis-agree on DMCA being fair. That was simply a gateway for SOPA/PIPA. And if CISPA http://forum.icefilms.info/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=69042 gets shot down, there will be another name after that. They will not stop on this matter until complacency roots, and they get their way. I applaud you on your efforts at making people aware. You may want to follow this guy: http://www.ted.com/speakers/clay_shirky.html
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Post subject: Re: Hollywood attorneys are trying to use the courts Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 3:08 pm |
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=) as your signature quotes Voltaire's beliefs "I may not believe in what you say, but I will fight to the death for your right to say it". I to will support your right to your opinion. I will concede that there are facets of the DMCA that I personally believe are beyond the rights of law. With that said, I do believe in general the over all Act does fine governing copyright infringements and offers proper course of action by individuals to their own digital personal properties. Regardless the burden with the DMCA is placed on the Copyright holder not the agency hosting such materials (until notified) to notify parties of possible infringement. This as an overall has been working. The US government is not the owner of any copyrighten or proprietary intellectual property in the accusedly infringing data on MegaUploads servers and as such does not and should not have the direct right to seized it. I personally have seen DMCA notification links on MegaUploads in the past and do believe they have more or less been diligent in the temporary/permanent removal of questionable materials that are of an infringing nature. The US government has broken the law by ordering the seizure of and freezing of MegaUpload and its assets. As stated in the brief Presumption of Innocents must always be given worthier or not personal beliefs are of guilt. The power of law is only as strong as we make it. We must stay true and hold firm to our laws cause if we do not protect our laws then how can we hope to have them protect us.
Down with PIPA Down with Sopa and Down with Big Brother Censorship!!!
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Post subject: Re: Hollywood attorneys are trying to use the courts Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 4:09 pm |
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Your response to my post makes me think you stopped reading after the first ten words and feel like the need to debate the legalities of DMCA. That was not my intention. It was a prelude to my next seven words which were meant to justify my first ten words. The rest of the post was meant to be the main body for consideration 
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Post subject: Re: Hollywood attorneys are trying to use the courts Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 6:17 pm |
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Ah perhaps I misunderstood your intent being that this is general forum. I personally do not have a major problem with the DMCA. I was just voicing my opinion of the validity of the DMCA as a tool for lack of current legislative precedent for the seizure of MegaUploads. I apologize if you felt I was in anyway misunderstanding your post. I just do not feel that the DMCA is the gateway that will allow for Laws such as Sopa/Pipa to be passed. The Constitution has an elastic clause that allows it to be amended meaning laws can change or perhaps stretch but I believe this has stretched it beyond judicial reason. In my understanding the DMCA is the only reason MU was even seized and I just don't feel it allows for such seizure. Sopa/Pipa would have allowed for it but since we all know that those have been indefinitely squashed that in turns makes the whole seizure illegal. To properly justify the seizure the US government must show legal precedent which there is none.
Thanks for your opinions. I will research further and review the thread you mentioned. Sorry for the DMCA tangent but I seem to feel its the only law remotely admissible to MU and needed to be mentioned.
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